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Jyrki Alakuijala
08-26-2004, 03:57 AM
wideglide01 wrote:

> no, they are a *snow* tire not an all season tire. Most snow
> tires are only R rated as these are.

On their site Nokian claims for these tires:

"Only four-season family of tires that carries the Severe Service
Emblem exceeding new government snow condition regulations"

How many seasons are there, if a four-season does not qualify as
all seasons?

Nokian makes summertires, all season tires, and studless
winter tires, but is most famous for its studded wintertires.
I had Nokian studless winter tires (older Nokian Hakkapeliitta Q) on
a Volvo V70 and currently Nokian summertires (NRZi) on LS400. Both
tires have been ok. The studless winter tires are no good on
(shiny) ice, but excellent on snow and in the typical Finnish
winter. NRZi are slightly noisier than the optimal luxury car
tire.

Nokian has skyrocketed in the Helsinki Stock market during the last
five years (up 200%), so they are doing something right. Also,
being a small tire manufacturer, they do not supply tires for new
cars as OEM installations, but people who actually choose tires
for their cars choose Nokian - giving an indication that it may
not be the cheapest choise, but a quality conscious choise.

I choose my summertires from the offerings of Continental,
Bridgestone, Michelin, and Nokian, but I like my winter tires to
be Nokian.

Disclaimer: My wifes cousin works for Nokian.

wideglide01
08-26-2004, 03:57 AM
Previously in alt.autos.lexus, Jyrki Alakuijala
<Jyrki.Alakuijala@find.me.via.google> proclaimed :

>wideglide01 wrote:
>
>> no, they are a *snow* tire not an all season tire. Most snow
>> tires are only R rated as these are.
>
>On their site Nokian claims for these tires:
>
>"Only four-season family of tires that carries the Severe Service
>Emblem exceeding new government snow condition regulations"

I believe, and I may be wrong, but the reference to regulations are
not US but Norwegian.

>
>How many seasons are there, if a four-season does not qualify as
>all seasons?
>
>Nokian makes summertires, all season tires, and studless
>winter tires, but is most famous for its studded wintertires.
>I had Nokian studless winter tires (older Nokian Hakkapeliitta Q) on
>a Volvo V70 and currently Nokian summertires (NRZi) on LS400. Both
>tires have been ok. The studless winter tires are no good on
>(shiny) ice, but excellent on snow and in the typical Finnish
>winter. NRZi are slightly noisier than the optimal luxury car
>tire.
>
>Nokian has skyrocketed in the Helsinki Stock market during the last
>five years (up 200%), so they are doing something right. Also,
>being a small tire manufacturer, they do not supply tires for new
>cars as OEM installations, but people who actually choose tires
>for their cars choose Nokian - giving an indication that it may
>not be the cheapest choise, but a quality conscious choise.
>
>I choose my summertires from the offerings of Continental,
>Bridgestone, Michelin, and Nokian, but I like my winter tires to
>be Nokian.

No argument here. I only said that a tire purely classified as a
*snow* tire, (not all season), isn't designed to be used year around
and because of it's necessary tread design, will be noisier on dry
pavement.


>
>Disclaimer: My wifes cousin works for Nokian.



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